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Re: [microblaze-uclinux] IRC Channel?
Jivin Matthew Rubenstein lays it down ...
> The only way that an IRC channel benefits a large community of mostly
> "lurkers" more than it costs in lost discussions that still "leech" off
> the community activity is with a strict logging protocol. The IRC is
> silent until people agree in email Cc'd to the list to meet on the IRC
> channel. Then at least one chatter logs the complete transaction and
> emails it back to the list when the session is done.
> I don't know of any SW that automates that social protocol. Without
> automation, it's totally unreliable. So IRC will divert discussions
> useful to all only to those immediately participating. The overall
> community that enables those IRC sessions won't get the return, either
> immediately or in searchable archives.
> If there's a way to address that weakness, I'd love to hear about it.
> Until then, I don't want to have to "hang out on IRC" to stay in touch
> with the MB/uCL project.
I was also under the impression that it was fairly easy to log all
sessions/traffic on IRC ? That way nothing is lost. I most certainly
don't have experience with it but I thought I'd seen some substantially
logs IRC channels in the past.
There have been a number of uClinux IRC channels pop up here and there.
I think I have connected in two or three times total. They were fairly
active, but I have never seen the uClinux-dev mailing list suffer at all
because of their existance.
People will ask questions where they are most likely to get the best
answer IMO. Actually, it seems people will ask questions in every
forum available to them if they are desperate for a reply :-). If
there are MB experts who prefer IRC, then they will hang out there
and it will work. If not it can still work, but it will be a very
> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 19:19 +0000, Abot Botbot wrote:
> > well, I agree in principle this is nice for building a community and
> > knowledge base. But conversely, there is immediacty and just plain-ol
> > comeraderie in the IRC form. Real time support for simple problems wouldnt
> > require waiting hours or days for it to turn over on the mailing list. We
> > could also get to know one another and give a nice face to newcomers and
> > crossovers from other platforms. Maybe its more time than people are willing
> > to put into it, but I for one wouldnt mind helping those lower down on the
> > learning curve, given all the help I've already absorbed.
> > Thanks,
> > Andy
> > >From: "e.stiebler" <emu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: microblaze-uclinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: microblaze-uclinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: Re: [microblaze-uclinux] IRC Channel?
> > >Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:01:47 -0700
> > >
> > >Abot Botbot wrote:
> > >>Hello everyone,
> > >>
> > >> Do you folks hang out in any specific IRC channels? If not we should
> > >>start one for uClinux or even just for microblaze.
> > >
> > >Please don't. For what we're doing, a mailinglist is better, because you
> > >can check the archives for questions asked already. In the IRC it is
> > >exactly what it is, just chat. And it is gone after being answered ;-)
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